Job Turndowns

[elliebean]

My fiancee's supervisor at the Waste Management regional call center said I should apply there because they have good, trans-friendly policies. I don't know the specific details of that, but I do know from her experiences they're a good company to work for in general and very gay-friendly, so I applied for a data entry position and I'll keep everyone posted.

[TechnoChick]

The place I work at I keep a low profile anymore and I try to not attract attention.

I work at a very close minded enviroment. I dress like a man just to be on the cautious side.

When I grow my hair out I'll wear it with a pony tail and baseball cap to work trying to fit in like any other Joe smoe.

( Will have to make sure that I have removed all the eye liner and mascara from the previous night.)

[TechnoChick]

I've always wondered what job hunting would be like after transition.

At your previous job you were known as Joe Smith yet ever since you transitioned you got a name change with your new appearance where your new name has become Jamey Smith.

How do you get around that without causing suspicion with the interviewer?

They look up your social security number and find out that a Jamey used to be a Joe.

[Althea Raine]

The place I work at I keep a low profile anymore and I try to not attract attention.

I work at a very close minded enviroment. I dress like a man just to be on the cautious side.

When I grow my hair out I'll wear it with a pony tail and baseball cap to work trying to fit in like any other Joe smoe.

( Will have to make sure that I have removed all the eye liner and mascara from the previous night.)

This followed by your signature makes me lol in irony.

[tiffany_elizabeth]

The place I work at I keep a low profile anymore and I try to not attract attention.

I work at a very close minded enviroment. I dress like a man just to be on the cautious side.

When I grow my hair out I'll wear it with a pony tail and baseball cap to work trying to fit in like any other Joe smoe.

( Will have to make sure that I have removed all the eye liner and mascara from the previous night.)

A word of warning, take your eye liner and mascara off before you go to bed. You'll forget in the morning if you're in a rush.

A couple of weeks ago I slept in my lipstick, thinking I'd take it off the next morning. Walked into a general store for a soda, which is also the local hangout, and the guys started laughing. Had to explain that "I was watching my woman's niece" (don't get on to me for calling her "my woman." That's how we talk around here and anything less will lead to ridicule, which works against my goal of staying under the radar) and she wouldn't leave me alone until I agreed to play "beauty shop."

[TechnoChick]

The place I work at I keep a low profile anymore and I try to not attract attention.

I work at a very close minded enviroment. I dress like a man just to be on the cautious side.

When I grow my hair out I'll wear it with a pony tail and baseball cap to work trying to fit in like any other Joe smoe.

( Will have to make sure that I have removed all the eye liner and mascara from the previous night.)

This followed by your signature makes me lol in irony.

Sometimes conformity wins especially if your survival depends on it irregardless if you like it or not.

[TechnoChick]

The place I work at I keep a low profile anymore and I try to not attract attention.

I work at a very close minded enviroment. I dress like a man just to be on the cautious side.

When I grow my hair out I'll wear it with a pony tail and baseball cap to work trying to fit in like any other Joe smoe.

( Will have to make sure that I have removed all the eye liner and mascara from the previous night.)

A word of warning, take your eye liner and mascara off before you go to bed. You'll forget in the morning if you're in a rush.

A couple of weeks ago I slept in my lipstick, thinking I'd take it off the next morning. Walked into a general store for a soda, which is also the local hangout, and the guys started laughing. Had to explain that "I was watching my woman's niece" (don't get on to me for calling her "my woman." That's how we talk around here and anything less will lead to ridicule, which works against my goal of staying under the radar) and she wouldn't leave me alone until I agreed to play "beauty shop."

Yeah I have definately worried about such things myself too in correlation to similar situations such as yours happening.

Staying under the cultural radar is hard.

[nexyjo]

I've always wondered what job hunting would be like after transition.

At your previous job you were known as Joe Smith yet ever since you transitioned you got a name change with your new appearance where your new name has become Jamey Smith.

How do you get around that without causing suspicion with the interviewer?

They look up your social security number and find out that a Jamey used to be a Joe.

i transitioned while i was at a job i worked from 1990 to 2004. as such, i had my name and gender updated in their records. subsequent potential employees would run an employment verification, and my post-transition name and gender would be verified. that's not a concern, if you don't want them to know. it's the background check using lexisnexis, the evil database of every public record known to man.

[sakura]

A word of warning, take your eye liner and mascara off before you go to bed. You'll forget in the morning if you're in a rush.

You could just pretend to be metrosexual, manliner and meels (male heels) are all the rage for the 'modern straight man'...apparently, I'm not sure where this is actually true, but I keep reading about it. I hang out mostly with gay guys, so this stuff is old hat for me, but places that are not trans friendly probably aren't too gay-friendly, either. Seriously, eye-liner is a major pain to remove, I just usually leave it on, but I am already out and employed, so I don't really care. I do sympathize with anyone out looking for work, it is a hard market without a big target on your back, so we are really screwed. Good luck

[tiffany_elizabeth]

I do sympathize with anyone out looking for work, it is a hard market without a big target on your back, so we are really screwed. Good luck

I'll second that. Over 1 year out of work, I don't present as a woman when I'm out looking for work, and I still don't have a job. If it's hard for someone who's not even out of the closet in his area yet I can't even begin to imagine how hard it is for someone going through transition.

[TechnoChick]

I do sympathize with anyone out looking for work, it is a hard market without a big target on your back, so we are really screwed. Good luck

I'll second that. Over 1 year out of work, I don't present as a woman when I'm out looking for work, and I still don't have a job. If it's hard for someone who's not even out of the closet in his area yet I can't even begin to imagine how hard it is for someone going through transition.

Ughh.....You should of saw me earlier at work today.

I was able to remove most of my makeup from the previous night except for maybe some small miniscule bits of mascara around my eye lashes.

99.9% of everybody at my job didn't even notice any difference because the previous night I used soap and every other sort of removal you can think of ridding myself of the makeup before I went to sleep ( You really have to scrub your face hard until it burns to get that stuff off.) that night but one girl out of everybody else at work today noticed the small bit that I had left asking if I had makeup on.

( Probally because she seems like one of the girls at work that seems to wear the most amount of it herself on a daily basis leaving her expirience to the details.....)

I of course dodged the question and left the lunchroom at my company as a sort of way of dodging the question where I answered with a simple reply of no.

If she asks again I'll probally just come out with a answer that skin moisturizer and chapstick work wonders for the male face in a sort of dash like reply.

[AttitudePlus1]

yup applied for a job at Walmart for night stocking, everything was fine until they found out I was trans. The way I see it it is their loss not mine. Why would I want to work for someone who is so narrow minded anyway. Why would I waste my time for shitty wages for the benefit of some ignorant company who cannot see beyond their own tiny view of the world. That was years ago, you know what ? With the shitty wages they are still paying I think it may have been a good thing.

[lisagurl]

With the shitty wages they are still paying I think it may have been a good thing.

If you think they step on people's rights and pay poor here, you should investigate what they do in China. I do not see how anyone could buy things from a slave owner. Not to mention all the pollution and corruption they cause. They have cause uncountable hardships on many people both in this country and abroad. You get what you pay for but they can not buy my ethics.