AlisonRain2 wrote:your third post here? you really get right to it don't you?
you want pics or movies of us post-ops doing it? but it's for 'srs results curiosity', eh? that's a new one.
FFChristie wrote:I know there's more, but the one that's popping into my head right now is Danielle Foxxx.
Ophir Androgynous wrote:BecomingSusan wrote:
> Sex with a trans woman can be very nice. I hesitate to be very specific, because
> I don't have permission from my former partner to talk about it. It certainly was
> good enough for the purpose of maintaining a relationship. In some ways, it's better.
> I had no complaints.
Susan, i read that u just recently had SRS. first of all congratulations! secondly, do u mean that u had a post-op trans partner? coz if u never had sex as post-op yet, i dont understand what did u mean by ur reply.
BecomingSusan wrote:Ophir Androgynous wrote:BecomingSusan wrote:
> Sex with a trans woman can be very nice. I hesitate to be very specific, because
> I don't have permission from my former partner to talk about it. It certainly was
> good enough for the purpose of maintaining a relationship. In some ways, it's better.
> I had no complaints.
Susan, i read that u just recently had SRS. first of all congratulations! secondly, do u mean that u had a post-op trans partner? coz if u never had sex as post-op yet, i dont understand what did u mean by ur reply.
I had a post-op trans woman partner while I still had a penis.
Ophir Androgynous wrote: i dont think i want to have a clitoris at all, and i dont want the labias to cover the vaginal opening too much.
Shiraz wrote:Susan, I talked to a man who had sex with a post-op transwoman, he didn't have a good experience, her vagina wasn't in the right place, I think he said it was higher up than normal. That said, I don't know that girl and god knows where she went to have her surgery. We keep talking about top surgeons on this site but there are girls, ethnic girls for the most part who have SRS on the cheap in Mexico and Thailand by local butchers.
Shiraz wrote:Ophir Androgynous wrote: i dont think i want to have a clitoris at all, and i dont want the labias to cover the vaginal opening too much.
If you don't have a clitoris, how do expect to have orgasmic pleasure with a man, I don't understand,,
As part of reassignment surgery for trans women, there are several ways to create a clitoris out of existing tissues. The most common method in practice, is to separate the glans of the penis from the paired erectile tissues, and reduce in size to simulate a cissexual woman's clitoris.
The success rate for the creation of a clitoris for trans women varies greatly. The most common cause of failure is the necrosis of the tissue from lack of blood supply. The greatest non health risk is damage to the pudendal nerves, if they are severed, the chance at clitoral orgasm is greatly reduced.
Most transsexual women's bodies readily accept the relocation of glans penile tissue in the area of a cissexual woman's clitoris. The glans tissue derived clitoris (using simple dissection techniques), is not a perfect emulation of the clitoris of a cissexual woman because of the difference in color, shape, and sexual response. Dr Suporn uses a modified technique that preserves some erectile tissue to simulate sexual response and uses foreskin to cover the glans tissue (for aesthetic reasons).
An alternate technique, involved the use of urethral spongiform as a makeshift clitoral mound. This allowed for better simulation of female sexual response at the cost of the clitoris being not as sensate as one derived from the glans penis. Urine leakage was a notable complication with this technique.
Older genital reassignment techniques made no attempt at the creation of a clitoris at all. The glans of the penis was sutured in the most distal (inner) part of the neovagina to simulate a cervix. The late Stanley Biber preferred this method.
Ophir Androgynous wrote:Shiraz wrote:Susan, I talked to a man who had sex with a post-op transwoman, he didn't have a good experience, her vagina wasn't in the right place, I think he said it was higher up than normal. That said, I don't know that girl and god knows where she went to have her surgery. We keep talking about top surgeons on this site but there are girls, ethnic girls for the most part who have SRS on the cheap in Mexico and Thailand by local butchers.
of course it depends a lot on the surgeon and surgery each transwoman had, and thats what i said to one of those men i chatted with, but he told me that he had sex with many post-ops and even had one as his girlfriend, and he said there are some general things that neovaginas have in common.
one thing that i allready knew of is that clitoris issue. not that its a high priority for me, as i said i dont see clitoris as something desireable, personally i even think its kind of disgusting, no offence. i think having orgasm through penetration is much more fun.Shiraz wrote:Ophir Androgynous wrote: i dont think i want to have a clitoris at all, and i dont want the labias to cover the vaginal opening too much.
If you don't have a clitoris, how do expect to have orgasmic pleasure with a man, I don't understand,,
the glans penis can be located inside the vagina, close to the opening i guess, so the sexual pleasure comes through the penetration rather than with outside clitoral stimulation. i even read somewhere that most surgeons prefer to do that than to fashion a clitoris coz the outcome tends to be problematic.
Ophir Androgynous wrote:FFChristie wrote:I know there's more, but the one that's popping into my head right now is Danielle Foxxx.
thank you, FFChristie.
i checked her out and most of her movies are from her pre-op period.
BecomingSusan wrote:Just about every post-op I know says it takes some time to get used to the new arrangement.
BecomingSusan wrote:The neovagina as created by both Bowers and Suporn is lower than a cis vagina.
Jaceska_Teag wrote:Take into account the, even minute, differences between a male pelvis area and a female, male's are pretty different so I would imagine they are working with bones being in the way (even if by mm) as well as other organs.
elliebean wrote:Here you go: See if you can spot the Neovag.
#equallydubiousmotives
There may not even be one among them. I don't know. nor do I care.
Ophir Androgynous wrote:regardless of whats your opinion about porn, i think its a very good way to witness how the neovagina functions sexually.
porn with post-op transwomen seems to be very rare, so if you can share pictures and movies you know of i would be very thankfull.
Ophir Androgynous wrote:maybe youre queerophobic...
AlisonRain2 wrote:most surgeons are going to give you what they're going to give you. you don't get to pick the pink clam and red snapper but leave the slimy eel like it's an a la carte sushi lunch special. most of the time, you're the limiting factor, not the surgeon's skill set.
Celia wrote:I think the problem is that you're asking for porn. I'm sure it wouldn't have been taken like this if you had asked for photos or video diaries. Porn seems like.. Well it's porn. Not exactly tasteful or classy.
Ophir Androgynous wrote:to AlisonRain2, elliebean, corvus.corax and Auphiel:Ophir Androgynous wrote:regardless of whats your opinion about porn, i think its a very good way to witness how the neovagina functions sexually.
porn with post-op transwomen seems to be very rare, so if you can share pictures and movies you know of i would be very thankfull.
i think i was very clear and polite.
maybe youre queerophobic who cant understand why would anyone whos not a transwoman be interested in MTF SRS results?
you wont be the first ones i met.
Ophir Androgynous wrote:porn actresses arent exactly high class ladies
Celia wrote:Ellie, you are being a bit harsh hun. She mightn't have worded it appropriately, but I sincerely doubt there is any malicious intent.
Ophir Androgynous wrote:those porn actresses arent exactly high class ladies
Dorothy Stepford wrote:Ophir Androgynous wrote:those porn actresses arent exactly high class ladies
Oh, fuck right off.
corvus.corax wrote:Ophir Androgynous wrote:maybe youre queerophobic...
Queers? HERE??
eeeewww...
FFChristie wrote:corvus.corax wrote:Ophir Androgynous wrote:maybe youre queerophobic...
Queers? HERE??
eeeewww...
Get 'em up against the wall!
Ophir Androgynous wrote:youre not being nice at all.
first, a movie of ppl having intercourse is defined as pornographic content, or porn for short. why is this word scare you so much?
second, yes, i think watching such thing of the neovagina "in action" can tell a lot about the results of vaginoplasty.
the fact that u dont see how it can be helpful for pre-op person - thats what weird to me, and kind of showing conservative thinking.
besides, calling creep to someone u dont know - thats creepy.
Microodyke wrote:Periscope.
I've put too much thought into this. A dilator with a transparent end, and a fiber-optic swivel camera in the tip? I have too much time on my hands.Has someone gone and invented a penis-cam?
Microodyke wrote:How does one get pictures of the 'neovagina' in action? Has someone gone and invented a penis-cam? Wouldn't having a camera strapped on the head of one's penis hurt?....and being on the receiving end of a pounding camera cannot be comfortable either! Perhaps you need a basic biology book, not a porn flick....the vagina is an INTERNAL structure...you'd need a speculum (or periscope?) to view it.
Celia wrote:Microodyke wrote:Periscope.
That gives a whole new dimension to 'up periscope'.I've put too much thought into this. A dilator with a transparent end, and a fiber-optic swivel camera in the tip? I have too much time on my hands.Has someone gone and invented a penis-cam?
BecomingSusan wrote:PIV = Penis In Vagina
Ophir Androgynous wrote:ok, so i'm a creep. who am i to argue?![]()
1. whats PIV?
2. of course i introduced myself: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10999
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